For me, the problems with operational reliability would rule out Eurowings already. Again . Lets get right into the review. This is why I stopped reading TPG and I hope to not stop reading OMAAT. It was so nice to see the Lufthansa Airbus A340-600 once again, as the plane only recently returned to service after being grounded during the pandemic. Id also note that there just generally seemed to be a lot of confusion with the service. Die Business Class von TAP Portugal. The ability to get rest was what made this flight feel like a Great British Air flight. While there was a Wi-Fi portal, you could just use it to view the buy on board menu (for economy), and to read some electronic journals. Due to its design, its primary use comes from domestic routes with 150 passengers.Powered by Next Generation Jets, the aircraft also boasts a First Class cabin with 12-person sitting area equipped with recliner chairs.Economy Plus is equipped with 42 seats and Economy Class has 96. Our BIZclass is the premium fare and offers maximum comfort at an attractive price. First-class service will make your flight an unforgettable experience. And final "finally" - they were much more lax with masks on my flights. Worst of all, Lufthansa is losing ground to competitors. @Lucky perhaps! Eurowings Discover has its own branding, while many of the service items are from Lufthansa. Cafe by Mise en Place is the Priority Pass restaurant at the Eurowings Discover terminal. Prices haven't really dropped compared to when Lufthansa operated the route. I should note that EWD is not the first time LH has tried to enter the leisure travel sector, with Condor, Cityline and others preceeding EWD, including EW Europe. Frankly, your taste has always been different than mine but I didnt note a tone in this post. I also want to mention that not all Eurowings Discover jets feature this business class product. Eurowings Discover is a brand new airline. The towels were distributed around 45 minutes after takeoff. The sun was setting and it was beautiful. Hi Ben, The Eurowings Airbus A330-300 features 262 seats in a 2 cabin configuration. The seat guru shows this class as premium economy. Our flight was changed from Lufthansa airlines to this. Thank you for that review. I thought their drinks were pretty good (I really like their non-alcoholic passion fruit punch at boarding), as well as the appetizers. The layout of the restaurant and the food and drink selection are better than what you'll find in most US airline lounges. Seat comfort Food Entertainment on board As our Business Class guest you will benefit from additional services: Eurowings Discover's business class is very similar to Lufthansa's business class. Actually Ben I also think that you are biased but in a different way. There is a new Aeroplan Credit Card in the United States which is pretty lucrative. Until August 31st, the aircraft had completed 78,461 flight hours (equating to 8.95 years in the skies) across 13,220 flight cycles. I rated the flight highly, and said it was a good experience overall. Eurowings Discover A330 business class storage compartment The tray table could be folded over in half. We flew Eurowings to discover from Tampa to Frankfurt. Foto d'Aerei & d'Aviazione - Vedi, Cerca e Carica Foto! Please view our advertising policy page for additional details about our partners. As others have said, business class on LH Group airlines is low value at high price. The crew served champagne, orange juice, and water inefficiently. My previous flights into Frankfurt from Tampa (Lufthansa), Philadelphia, Washington all has runway exits and then a bus. Now I'll steam them with oyster sauce. Ford had the panfried chicken breast with mushroom cream sauce. Im paying 50 for a nearly 5 hour train ride. There were 77 TV shows and 66 movies, but very few of them were mainstream or new. This route used to be operated by Lufthansa mainline, and I haven't noticed that pricing has been lowered in any way. Thank you for being honest. The plane didn't feel very clean or fresh, and the overhead consoles had a lot of dirt marks and scratches on them. Our first three flights all ended up different configurations (including the staggered Swiss layout), though the last 3 all had the 5x6 layout. Your vacation can get off to a relaxing start as you wait for your flight in one of our lounges. As a result I'm very fond of them. The airline has no operational reliability. I couldn't help but take one of the packets of Nutella since I find them to be so cute. The plane we were flying is an 18-year-old A330-300 that was transferred to Eurowings Discover. The lowest roundtrip business class fare from Tampa to Frankfurt is around $4,400, and it goes way up from there. After reading this, my flight was switched to this airline and we paid a premium price and not for this. Waiting at each seat on boarding were a pillow and blanket, both of which were pretty decent. For some reasons, LH has downgraded its catering on its transatlantic business class with a combined starter/entree course, and a reduced pre-arrival meal offering. We started our descent about 30 minutes before landing, and had great views on approach (unfortunately the glare plus dirty windows made it hard to get good pictures of it). The window seats are facing the fuselage. There was a lot of confusion with the service. Then the crew came through the cabin to extend each passengers tray table and place a tablecloth on it, and then nothing happened for 45 minutes. Happy landings my friend. Breakfast service started ridiculously early, 2hr15min before landing. The Business Class cabin on the A330 makes a chic first impression, with dark grey seat covers, wood-trimmed decor touches, and QA's signature purple color displayed on the entertainment screens. The lavatories were pretty basic, aside from LOccitane hand lotion. So, after take-off its a case of leaning back, putting your feet up and enjoying some time out above the clouds. I wouldnt exactly say thats great, but I guess its not terrible if a leisure airline has the same business class as a global full service airline. Wich amused me a lot is the french dressing wich is more a mix between Greece and Sweeden than french.dont talk about the spanish proposal with cranberries. We fly Eurowings from SLC to Frankfurt in about a month - looking forward to a great flight and restful experience . It's not that their prices are cheaper than other airlines so i'd only fly them if i had no other options. My issues with the experience were the more important points, like reliability, service quality, etc. Instead, plenty of comfort and relaxation to ensure that your holiday can begin the moment you step on board. The plane we were flying, D-AIKB, is a roughly 18-year-old Airbus A330-300 that flew for Lufthansa until 2021, before being transferred to Eurowings Discover. Discover the benefits of the Eurowings BIZclass fare like priority boarding, catering or an empty adjacent seat. Never ate them as a child. Yet, I feel like I can't escape this notion from bloggers that somehow LH is this magical flying beast that's just so great. When the plane was flown by Lufthansa, it had wi-fi. In the interest of full disclosure, OMAAT earns a referral bonus for anyone thats approved through some of the below links. Storia Dopoguerra e anni '50 Un Convair CV-340 nel 1954.. Lufthansa fa risalire le sue origini al 1926, quando la Deutsche Luft Hansa A.G. (designata come Deutsche Lufthansa dal 1933 in poi) si form a Berlino. I certainly hope Eurowings gets their act together soon. I am not sure if it has been turned on as a cost saving measure or not. How much cheaper was this ticket vs one on LH? No to-do list, no agenda, no business commitments. Signature Suites are only open to Endre and other paying customers . My main course was the cajun style sauted shrimp with cream sauce. I still wouldn't call these seats great, because they have an incredibly disappointing business class. Nach einem Bericht des "Aviation Herald" wurde das Flugzeug bei einer harten Landung "erheblich beschdigt". For some reasons, LH has downgraded its catering on its transatlantic business class with a combined starter/entree course, and a reduced pre-arrival meal offering. You can refuse or withdraw consent at any time using the link provided at the bottom of each page. Lie-flat. Each passenger was given a menu for the flight. So disapointing. . At that point warm towels were distributed, plus the choice of orange juice or water. Unfortunately Lufthansa also has an incredibly underwhelming business class, so I still wouldn't call these seats great. The controller was in the center armrest. The cookies on our website are also used to collect usage statistics/analytics as well as for advertising re-targeting. They don't need to arrive rested and refreshed to make an important business meeting on arrival. They were excited to be working as cabin crew. Came from Germanwings afaik(a closed short haul subsidiary of Lufthansa), had zero experience on the A330 and zero experience on long haul. Legroom-wise, the Economy pitch of 30-32" is average, the Business class pitch of 35" is average, though of course what that means for . available classes for the second part of this route are Economy and Business Class. Opinions expressed here are the author's alone, not those of the bank, credit card issuer, airline, hotel chain, or product manufacturer/service provider, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any of these entities. The seat guru shows this class as premium economy. There was a small fully enclosed storage compartment near the ottoman, though its not really big enough to be practical. I updated the post to reflect that. Also, you haven't taken the BA flight to London from Tampa. Aeroplan points are easy to get, as the program partners with American Express Membership Reward, Capital One, and Chase Ultimate rewards. Eurowings Discover has major operational reliability issues, and on top of that, the crews aren't trained to provide premium service. Blick aus der letzten Reihe der Economy Class Airbus A330-900neo. It was a shockingly gorgeous spring morning in Germany, with sunny skies and warm temperatures. I was able to book the following in business class for 70,000 Aeroplan points and a fee of $72.58 per person. The aircraft entered service with Lufthansa in 2005, before being transferred to Brussels Airlines in 2018. The tray table also folded out from the center armrest, and could be folded over in half. We also serve you our warm Discover cookie and other snacks during the flight. It was pretty good, I chose the yellow beet carpaccio with smoked salmon and french cocktail sauce. Always love looking at the plane while driving into the airport, though, given that it's parked right by the road. The plane has Wi-Fi installed on it, given that the plane had Wi-Fi when Lufthansa flew it. They were operated but Brussels, but with a Eurowings livery. @ tipsyinmadras -- To be clear, the lack of consistent branding didn't in any way bother me, I was just pointing it out because I found it interesting (same as the four engine plane on the map). Business class will include: 30 seats. Your experience is much in line with I have experienced with them on 3 trips to Namibia. At gate F87, boarding was scheduled to start at 7:40PM. Additionally, Condor will offer high speed wi-fi throughout the aircraft. We paid the business class price and this looks much less than this with a much smaller plane. Their chief pilot? Eurowings Discover serves coffee in large cups so you get a decent amount. See, theres a method to my seat selection preferences. I'm booking for my family of 4, so sorta need to take what i can get. My Eurowings longhaul aircraft was the Brussels Airlines-operated, Belgian-registered A330-300, OO-SFJ. I had the same issue on JAL 2 years ago w/ all lights turned on for bfast 2+ hours from landing. Saudia A330 flies mainly to high density regional destinations. I asked the agent to add our Known Traveler Numbers (KTN) to our reservations, since I wasnt able to do so online during the process (this would get us TSA PreCheck). Honestly I feel like your tone in recent articles (this, senators lounge, United from Kona) have really felt exceedingly entitled and is unlike your previous tones and coming off exceedingly entitled (very the points guy, whom I've stopped reading). Our flight was changed from Lufthansa airlines to this. Eurowings Discover doesn't offer lounge access in the terminal, so I can't go, but the only lounge in the terminal is the American Admirals Club. Thank you for being honest I was looking at this route/carrier for a summer trip. Does Edelweiss use the AA lounge or none? Eurowings Discover business class isn't cheap. Our flight the previous day was supposed to feature those seats (and I was looking forward to trying that seat, since its different), but unfortunately that flight got canceled. I selected the yellow beet carpaccio with smoked salmon and french cocktail sauce, which was pretty good. Unfortunately our Eurowings Discover flight left a bit to be desired. En; Es; Fr; . Thanks, Unfortunately Lufthansa also has an incredibly underwhelming business class, so I still wouldn't call these seats great. In terms of the ability to get rest, this flight felt like this Great British Air flight, minus the force-fed truffles, of course. I think I'd be doing readers a disservice by being overly positive about something like that. Its funny how Eurowings Discover only sort of has its own branding, while many service items are from Lufthansa. At least theres not the issue of having to squeeze your feet into a small footwell. Still no idea why this would be shown on an A330 flight but thats probably at least the reason why the 3D model exists. Recliner. How do you keep track of which plane you've flown? I will write about service at the beginning of the review, because unfortunately this is what defined the flight. Instead Eurowings Discover has Lufthansa pricing with even less service. Rating this 2.5 and the recent domestic "first" shocker 4/5 just does not make any sense. In terms of amenities, Eurowings Discover business class was also mighty similar to Lufthansa business class. @ JB -- Indeed, over the years TPA has had mainline and Cityline, but now Lufthansa exclusively operates Eurowings Discover from Frankfurt to Tampa. Re the branding & service: Eurowing Discover (not related to Eurowings, which is also part of the LH group and flies the "non-premium" routes in Europe) is a low-cost way for LH Group to gobble up market share and profit on leisure routes, hence the not so well trained staff, the mixed branding, and the ageing fleet. >> on this flight the catering is not pleasant and service seems slow / drawn-out. The Eurowings Airbus A330-200 features 310 seats in a 2 cabin configuration. Once ticketed I saw that the flights are operated by Eurowings Discover (LH codrshare). Seit einer zu harten Landung am Zielflughafen sorgt die noch ungeklrte Beschdigung am Flugzeug und die ebenfalls unklare Ursache der Funktionsstrung . Haven't done the BA flight out of Tampa, though. For example, the guy working our aisle would ask the flight attendant working the other aisle whether she had a chicken dish by sort of doing the chicken dance with his arms. And you're right, it's nice that Eurowings Discover at least has a "real" business class, and not just premium economy. But they also had no clue what they were doing. Yes, I get that the price is in line with most normal business class but as you said they were almost full so seems that they are pricing right. Meanwhile at Lufthansa, all we have is the promise of a new business class product some day. Im surprised you actually had a terminal arrival. Ive always had a strong emotional connection to Lufthansa and Frankfurt Airport, so whenever taxiing at the airport, my eyes are glued out the window. Thanks for this review, I think that asfor Lufthansa we will avoid the "litle sister". Hugo-Eckener-Ring 1. Opinions expressed here are the authors alone, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any of these entities. You have to use the little black button in the center as a mouse, and I dont find that to be that great of a system. At one time did they change this to business from premium economy, For my main course I ordered the cajun style sauted shrimp with cream sauce, jasmine quinoa rice, and broccoli. Airbus A330-300. The A330 business class has 30 seats spread across five rows. Die Economy Class im Airbus A330-300 von Eurowings Discover Im Gegensatz zur Premium Economy Class ist das Design der Kopfsttzen in Blau gehalten. Quick question here. Not only is the screen as such quite low quality, but the selection was also limited. By the time the meal was done, we were in Germany. Our 10:15 pm from Toronto years ago finished meal service at 1 am. So yeah, in terms of hard product youd more or less think youre on Lufthansa. . It will use them on five routes to the US and Canada, with the first taking off in just a few days. Eurowings and Edelweiss could combine and go back into the Club but I guess they don't want the cost. It took another 30 minutes for the starter to be served. The airline definitely paid for the budget IFE selection. Video Finnair Unveiled New Business Class and Premium Economy Interview with Finnair CEO Topi Manner Sam Chui Ben, are you aware of my.flightradar24 where you can keep track of all the flights you have flown? This is business class in an Austrian Railjet. What's more likely is that Eurowings is the first budget carrier in Europe to offer lie flat . Here's Lufthansa's business class for comparison: A Eurowings press release said they are the first budget carrier to offer fully flat seats, which is incorrect. My website: www.winginit.me Date of Travel: 22 MARCH 2022 Airline: Eurowings Discover Livery: Eurowings Discover standard The captain made his welcome aboard announcement around this time, informing us of our flight time of 8hr45min to Frankfurt. document.getElementById( "ak_js" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Im here because I was wondering what on earth Ew Discover is. There is a departure time of 8:20PM and arrival time of 10:30AM on March 25th.The flight from Frankfurt to Venice is departing at 12:50PM. I browsed the disappointing entertainment selection as we climbed out. At 20:40, Rows 1 to 14 were invited to board - priority boarding for Business Class and Best Class (that's Eurowings Premium Economy). I was able to book the following in business class for 70,000 Aeroplan points plus $72.58 in taxes and fees per person: 03/25 4Y65 Tampa to Frankfurt departing 8:20PM arriving 10:30AM (+1 day)03/26 LH328 Frankfurt to Venice departing 12:50PM arriving 2:05PM. Staffing is "young,cheap and inexperienced" all along. . Interestingly this was just the standard Lufthansa one, down to the logo. First of all, regarding United from Kona, I'm not sure what I was bitter about? I'll take sitting next to a stranger over cramming my size 12s into a size 8 shoe box. Zum Start des Sommerflugplans stattet Eurowings Discover neben der Business Class und der Premium Economy Class, . Discover the advantages of the Eurowings BIZclass fare like priority boarding, catering or an empty adjacent seat. I find them to be fine if youre traveling with someone, since you can be close to them, but otherwise they lack privacy. Those werent the only issues, but those were my two biggest gripes. I am all for being critical when it is necessary, but it is now coming off entitled. The only difference I see is that the crew on euro wings were friendly instead of cold. Unfortunately the airline lacks operational reliability, experienced crews, and Wi-Fi, which can greatly impact the experience. We had a taxi that took us to our gate. That was served with a side salad that had feta cheese, cherry tomatoes, and sesame ginger dressing. James, I have never been bothered by FAs on flights to Europe due to not wearing a mask (basically I take it off after take off and do not put it back on till landing). Eurowings Discover. Too bad we have very limited choice here. I've noticed you tend to always select seats in the last row of Business, could I ask why? With boarding passes in hand, we headed to Concourse F, which is a familiar concourse for me (given that its where American departs from). We got to Tampa Airport (TPA) at around 6PM for our 8:20PM flight to Frankfurt. There was then supposed to be the choice of caramel cheesecake on raspberry coulis, or a cheese plate, including manchego and gorgonzola cheese with grapes and crackers. So I just watched the moving map for much of the flight. I liked the cockpit of Eurowings Discover. I know they used to operate Cityline A330s and A340s to Tampa since 2016, and may have even operated mainline A330s when they first started service. While Lufthansa and Eurowings often is without alternatives in Europe I will definitely avoid Discover. The shrimp were pretty decent, but the rice was way overcooked, to the point that it was chewy. I'll be contacting the airlines. Unfortunately the airline lacks operational reliability, experienced crews, and Wi-Fi, which can greatly impact the experience. Oops. Eurowings contains multiple airplanes with an easy to realize and simple Airbus A320 seatmap. ;-). Fully reclinable single seats, tons of legroom, a free beverage and food service to your seat. We were checked in quickly because the business class line was short. Business class passengers were offered an amenity kit after they settled in. Our welcome drink, specially created for Eurowings Discover, and our exclusive range of beverages will round off this culinary experience. At 8:10PM it was announced that boarding was complete, and a few moments later the main cabin door closed. Warm towels were distributed, along with the choice of orange juice or water. All fares at a glance Business Class In our Business Class you will enjoy many benefits, and they begin when you arrive at the airport. Thanks for an interesting review and I honestly have no interest stepping onboard Eurowings Discover anytime soon. Our BIZclass is the premium fare and offers maximum comfort at an attractive price. Indeed, the crew was kind, conscientious, and attentive (and they spoke great English). I completely forgot about it until this Brussely subject came up. We started our descent about 30 minutes before landing and had a great view of the approach, but it was hard to get good pictures of it. This route used to be operated by Lufthansa mainline, and I haven't noticed that pricing has Eurowings Discover business class isn't cheap. Honestly sounds a lot like Lufthansa, slow meal service included. TPA was my home airport to as a kid and I loved seeing the BA 777 at the gate whenever you would drive into the airport. Airbus A330-300. Aeroplan has many airline partners. Finland's flag carrier is leasing out unneeded aircraft, including four A321s to British Airways. While we do try to list all the best miles and points deals, the site does not include all card companies or credit card offers available in the marketplace. Eurowings Discovers A330 business class consists of 30 seats, spread across five rows in a 2-2-2 configuration. Click here for a new VR tour of the . like they had to win a Grand Prix race. The lowest roundtrip business class fare from Tampa to Frankfurt is around $4,400, and it goes way up from there. Finally once the main cabin door closed we asked if we could have some drinks, at which point the flight attendant acted surprised that we hadnt been offered anything. So Im not sure if it just hasnt been turned on as a cost saving measure, or what? In most cases LH is either folding them back into the LH brand or dissolving them. Thank you for that review. Eurowings Discover has major operational reliability issues (our flight was canceled, so we had to be rebooked the next day), and on top of that, the crews simply arent trained to provide premium service. There was a bottle of water in the storage compartment. On the plus side, it's nice that a leisure airline has the same business class as a full service airline. Sounds like it might be better to fly this airline to the US than to Germany. indeed - i agree that sometimes the 'rubbish' business class is same price as the more excellent classes - one the reasons I enjpy following this insightful travel blog is Ben's candid honesty to help me plan my own flights I guess a safety video wasnt in Eurowings Discovers budget, given that it launched during the pandemic. The Eurowings Airbus A330-200 features 310 seats in a 2 cabin configuration. BA moved to the AA lounge and The International Club closed. The Eurowings Airbus A330-200 presented here is configured with 310 seats that are sectioned into two separate classes - BEST and Economy. . In many things in life mediocre and poor products are cheaper. We headed to the Senator Lounge prior to our flight to Venice. Detailed seat map Eurowings Airbus A330 300. We arrived at the airport at around 6PM for our flight. 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