clearly more powerful than the .30-30. The .35 Remington load using the 150-grain Core-Lokt obtains just about the same muzzle velocity, with a bullet having a lower B.C. Which Shoots More Flatly? The .30/30 has probably done just about everything that can be done with a rifle. Everybody agrees that the .358 Win. bullet than the .35 Remington. Access the newest seasons of MeatEater, save content, and join in discussions with the Crew and others in the MeatEater community. Rather, I appreciate the comparison to that pair of lever action classics: the .30-30 Winchester, and more importantly because they are very close in bore diameter, the .35 Remington. Mag..404 Jeffery vs. .416 Rigby.243 Winchester vs. 6mm Creedmoor.300 PRC vs. .300 Win. Its flatter trajectory helps hunters reach across the open country, and I doubt theres a real ranch west of the big river that doesnt have a .30/30 lever-gun behind the kitchen door, if not behind the truck seat. The Model 07 was discontinued This combination offers an affordable, hard-hitting rig which is capable of taking most common game animals, albeit at short range. For a while Savage chambered it in the Model 99, and I am still looking for one I can afford. A rifle chambered in this caliber will let you practice more frequently and stay at the range longer than one in the .35 Rem. In 1987 Remington made an honest cartridge out of the .35 Whelen. Americas Other Levergun by Glen E. Fryxell, The Great Model 8 & 81 by Richard Jones,Bullet Frontal Area List, by Chuck Hawks, andtheLyman 50th Edition(p309-310) andHornady 10th Edition(p682-683) reloading manuals were used as references for this article. There have been many others, such as the .35-30 Maynard (both in the 1865 and the 1882 versions) and .35-40 Maynard. But when Winchester chambered the .358 the following year in its unique lever-action, the Model 88, it became a really interesting cartridge. The .35SL proved popular at first with the general public as a short-range deer and black bear hunting cartridge, but was soon superseded by the introduction of the more powerful .351SL in the Winchester '07. Here, he explains their advantages and disadvantagesand how to use them safely. Note: A longer version of this article can be found on the Rifle Cartridge Page. and the 6.5 mm Rem. G. gunswizard. From the Green Goblin (a bolt-action rifle I built on a Remington action), both will produce groups that are sub-minute-of-angle. Mag. It arrived with. If you don't intend to hunt beyond 200Yards, save you money keep your 35 Rem in a Marlin platform and scope it with a Leupold. of energy at 200 yards, dropping 7.5 inches when using a 100-yard zero. However, they are high pressure loads and should only be used in modern firearms, such as the Marlin 336, that are in good condition. Both of these .35 Remington ammo choices offer slight improvements over typical factory loads. While the American mainstream wont accept the .35, they are not unloved. But it offers only 100fps more with a 200 gr. That list, by the way, is in ascending order of power. In most guns, neither cartridge produces the velocity or accuracy for varmints, and both are underpowered for very large game. Developed in the days before ballistic coefficient was a talking point at gun counters, these cartridges tend to use wide, stubby bullets that cant maintain velocity at extended ranges. or the .35 Remington It was introduced in the bolt-action Model 70 in which it was trustworthy, but boring. contemporary Model 8 autoloader by Remington. and a 250-grain Partition load with a muzzle velocity of 2550 f.p.s. If you own a .270, your buddy probably owns a .30-06. .30-30 Win. [6] But for the handloader who has taken the time to replace the recoil spring and buffer in the Winchester Model 1907, the .351 SL can be loaded to its original velocities. At this time, Henry and Marlin are the only two companies Im aware of that produce new rifles in the cartridge. Its even more effective when using some of the hotter loads (like those from Buffalo Bore) available on the market. Theyre real deal hunting rifles honored and appreciated by those who hunt with their feet as opposed to feet-per-second. The barrel is a full 22 inches, like it always should have been, but the foolish design with the huge shark fin front sight turned hunters off, and it was dropped. Instead, it was first chambered in Remington's Model 8 auto-loading rifle. Lyman mold #350319. He was born in 1921 and later served as a navy corpsman in Japan and Korea. Ill bet its been awhile since those cartridges have been seen in a hunting camp. Naturally, this resulted in performance compromises and the .351 WSL is not nearly as powerful as the .35 Remington cartridge offered in the contemporary Model 8 autoloader by Remington. Its thought to be the rifle legendary stock detective Tom Horn used for his assassinations, and African professional hunter Wally Johnson even used a .30/30 with success on lions. It used to be that you couldnt find an eastern deer camp without a .35 Remington in it. Moderate, safe, bland and predictable. One can almost hear the echoes of Norma Mag. The .35 Remingtons heavier and larger diameter bullets just seem to make critters fall down faster. Ballistics vs. .35 Rem. Curious how the new .360 Buckhammer will be received by the market. The maximum load is 19.5 Back in 1983 Winchester introduced the .356 Win. check. The .30-30 Winchester has the unique claim of being the first cartridge designed to run on both black powder and the revolutionary smokeless powder. With the best loads, my Remington Model 700 is one-hole accurate. I still see them each deer season in upstate New York, in the Catskills and Adirondacks, as well as in the Hudson Valley; like the .30-30 Winchester, the .35 Remington is cheap to shoot and still makes venison as well as it did a century ago. Well played Winchester; we all need to work together. The .35 Win., .35 Newton and .350 Griffin & Howe Mag. While the .35 Remington was extremely popular when first introduced in the early 1900s, the cartridge has fallen out of mainstream use in recent years. Particularlywhen used in a high quality rifle, the .35 Remington is capable of pretty darn good accuracy and Ive shot many nice groups with an off the shelfRemington Model 81. 223 Remington 243 Win 300 AAC Blackout 300 Win Mag 45-70 5.56x45mm NATO 6.5mm Creedmoor 7.62x39mm View All Calibers Rimfire Ammo 17 . load of 17.0 grains of IMR 4227 for a MV of 1400 fps. But ever since the mid-1950s when Marlin started chambering their Model 336 in .35 Remington, theres been a Hatfield & McCoy like feud over whether it was a better lever-gun cartridge than the .30/30 Winchester. Spl. Contributor Brad Fenson is back in the kitchen with another recipe for uplanders across the continent. Thanks for your support. factory load is a 250-grain Oryx bullet listed with a muzzle velocity of 2723 f.p.s. cases and .357-cal. value, so you might see a bit more drop and lower velocity at 200 yards, but inside of 150 yards, I highly doubt youd note much of a difference. If zeroed at 200 yards, their 160-grain FTX .30/30 Winchester load will drop 12 inches at 300 yards. Size hits a little harder, but only clocks in at 13 ft.-lbs. My mom made the best elk pot roast, Outstanding article. They include both the AccuBond and the Partition 225-grain bullets with a muzzle velocity of 2800 f.p.s. Just $1 per month . That version is in some dispute, with evidence that Whelen himself developed the cartridge or at least worked with Howe on its development. The new 350 Legend has the benefit of modern engineering, and the fact that it wasnt designed specifically for a tubular magazine. in the Big Bore Model 94. vs. .458 Lott7mm Rem. Naturally, this resulted in performance compromises and the It is very accurate, easy to carry and fast on the target. The .35 Remington uses the 180- and 200-grain .358caliber bullets, and while light-for-caliber, they are effective at the ranges a .35 Remington is used, which is usually inside of 150 yards. Chambered in everything from the 22 Long Rifle to the 45/70 Government, theres nothing on the planet a lever gun cannot handle. Versatility vs. .35 Rem. Using the lighter .358-inch diameter bullets weighing 150 to 200 grains, the .35 Remington gave enough power to cleanly take a deer, bear or similar sized animals, without pounding the shooters shoulder to jelly. Nosler has three loads in its Custom line. One shot is all it took. Due in part to this rounds greater popularity and in part to the R&D surrounding .30-caliber pills, the .30-30 can be loaded with far more advanced projectiles. At 300 yards, it has 19 percent more energy than the .300 Win. Out west and the .30/30 is the king. If I were a Midwest hunter, Id dive on top of the 350 Legend, as it gives what I consider to be the most bang for the buck. You may be better doing that instead of reaming the barrel you have. This Mossberg 26B bolt-action rifle in .22 caliber belonged to my dad, Robert Elmo Babington. into the deer woods, and I pine for what could have been. Sure, we experiment a bit with other bore sizes, but in the end it always comes back to the .30 caliber. It may not be high speed or low drag, but its got more than enough juice to get the job done. The old timers that designed big cartridges like the 35 Remington knew what it took to kill big game like elk and moose not to mention deer in brush along river banks. In its day, the .351 was used for short range deer hunting, but today it is considered marginal for the purpose. Usually, Id give the nod here to the .35 Rem., and theres no question it hits harder. Winchester action. Whitetail hunting strategies for the next generation. .35 Remington This stumpy little cartridge was introduced to the hunting public in 1908 and is the only surviving member of the early class of Remington rimless cartridges. If we compare the .300 Win. This helps support the blog and allows me to continue to create free content thats useful to hunters like yourself. An experimental Thompson submachine gun was also made to fire .351 SL in 1919 but was never produced commercially. It was not designed for a lever-action rifle. The most popular cartridges for hunting and even target shooting begin and end with the thirties. remains in production. In 2015, Mann began contributing to Field & Stream to cover guns, ammunition, ballistics, and hunting. However, historians are conflicted on the subject and there are several different stories about what rifle Hamer actually used. Its strength is a straight wall allowing use in certain states for big game. Mag. Included in that have been a whole bunch of deer, hogs and a bear or two. Those traditional lead-core bullets have proved their worth in the field, but its tough to compete with the advancements in bullet-making of the last 20 years. The 2019 SHOT Show saw the release of the latest cartridge from Winchester: the 350 Legend. Mag..243 Winchester vs. 6mm Remington7x57mm Mauser vs. 7mm-08 Remington.25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum.338 Winchester vs. .375 H&H Magnum.30-30 Winchester vs. .35 Remington.257 Roberts vs. .250-3000 Savage.270 Winchester vs. .280 Remington.35 Whelen vs. 9.3x62mm Mauser.416 Rigby vs. .416 Remington Magnum.308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield.22 Nosler vs. .224 Valkyrie.300 Win. Even when using loads on the upper end of the performance envelope for the cartridge, the .35 Remington still has a relatively slow velocity and low ballistic coefficient. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. FMJ bullet at 1,870 f.p.s. G. Joined: Feb 2010. Winchester offered .351 WSL factory loads loaded with 180 grain jacketed soft point (JSP), round nose bullets. But bringing down game isnt just about heavy, fast-flying bullets. Mag. However, even after 123 years on the market, the .30-30 Winchester remains the king of medium caliber lever guns; it has been in the top ten selling cartridges for Federal Premium to this day, and with millions of rifles out there chambered for the cartridge, that will probably be a fact decades from now. and .35 Rem., it was an excellent woods rifle for hunting whitetails. The .30-30 Winchester and .35 Remington wont break any speed recordstheres no doubt about that. This is our first clean sweep in the Caliber Battle series. stated to be 1850 fps and the muzzle energy 1370 ft. lbs. Using a 180 grain JSP bullet, Lyman data shows a starting The Remington Model 673 Guide Rifle was chambered in .350 Rem. By and large, we shooters seem to gravitate to the middle of the road; to bland, yet predictable, mediocrity. Additionally, the .35 Remington will perform adequately on larger game such as elk, grizzly bear, brown bear and moose. Savage Arms has announced the newest model in its series of straight-pull rifles, the Impulse Driven Hunter. Heres what you need to know about hunting with the 35 Rem today. The 350 Legend has a 180-grain Power Point load, though no 200-grain load as the .35 Remington does. and is a good cartridge for hunting the thick woods for deer, hogs, black bear or even elk. So, which one comes out on top in a head-to-head matchup? However, the biggest shortcoming in the cartridge is limited effective range. Which is the more useful cartridge? Mag. Im old enough to remember when the lever guns were still highly popular among deer hunters, and my own rifle, as shiny and unproven as it was in comparison to the older gents worn pieces with bluing rubbed off and stock finish dulled by the elements, was a source of pride. The .35 Remington was releasedas one of a quartet of rimless cartridges from Remingtonin 1906; it is a rimless affair designed for their Model 8 autoloading rifle. Bottles & 12-oz. Winchester is currently chambering the excellent XPR rifle for the 350 Legend, so for those who prefer a modern bolt-action rifle to the classic lines of a lever-action, the 350 Legend might appeal to you. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. lcw #12400267 11/15/17. .30-30 Win. And the Winner Is I love a good underdog story (not to mention a less common cartridge), and I was hoping to be able to justify giving the nod to the .35 Rem. Copyright 2009, 2013 by Chuck Hawks. Copyright 2023 Big Game Hunting Adventures LLC | All Rights Reserved. Re: 35 Remington vs. 358 Winchester. Classic lever-action deer rifles are undoubtedly cool. I have a 35 Remington and a 35 whelen and they are good hunting for big game. with bullets between 200 grains and 220 grains. The most common load is a 200gr round nose soft point traveling between 2,000 and 2,100 feet per second. Campfire Ranger. There seem to be fewer choices each year, and thats a shame. clearly more powerful than the .30-30. The original load of the cartridge propelled a 200 grain, .35 caliber, bullet at just under 2,100 feet per second. It has accounted for almost all, if not all, North American game species, and the famous African PH Wally Johnson used one to kill lions in his early years in Mozambique. starting load is also 17.0 grains and the MV 1658 fps. I have a .356 Win. The 35 Remington also uses a bullet about 18% heavier and with over 35% more frontal surface area (.1007 vs .0745 square inches). Of the two, which serves the hunter better? Mag. The .351 Winchester SL cartridge had but one loading, a 180-gr. [1] .35 Winchester Self-Loading cartridge diagram. Today the .35 caliber family, at least in North America, includes the .357 Magnum, .35 Remington, .356 Winchester, .358 Winchester, .35 Whelen, .350 Remington Magnum and .358 Norma Magnum. At 100 yards it will hit with 1861 foot-pounds of energy. Remington loads a 200-grain PSP Core-Lokt bullet at a muzzle velocity of 2775 f.p.s. Federal, for example, offers 12 varieties of the .30-30, including loads in their excellent Trophy Copper and HammerDown series. Like any inquisitive young man, I delved into the history and nostalgia of the .30 WCF, or .30-30, and the many names it has carried, and was honored to take my first deera whitetail doewith the same cartridge that my father took his. Ohio and southern Michigan are just two examples of areas where the shotgun slug has been replaced by straight-walled cartridges like the .45-70 Government, .444 Marlin and, more recently, the .450 Bushmaster. In a modern bolt-action rifle, hand loaders can achieve velocities of 2,400 fps with a 200-grain bullet, making the .35 Rem. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. The .358 Win. Heres how to avoid the poseurs and choose the right one. At ranges less than 100 yards, likewhen hunting whitetail deeror black bear in thick cover,the cartridge excels and is absolutely deadly on big game. loaded with a 180-grain Oryx bullet to the .358 Norma Mag. Its said that the French used it in World War I, but it probably didnt see much action. I feel the cartridges offer very similar performance, at similar ranges. Semi-automatic and striker-fired, the P320-XTEN is extremely accurate, easy to shoot even with powerful 10mm loads and holds 15-plus-one rounds. I have used the .35 Whelen on critters from bobcats to moose. Traditionally, the tubular magazines of the popular lever-rifles restricted the cartridges to using round or flat-point bullets, to avoid the possibility of magazine detonation, should a pointed spitzer bullet hit the primer of the cartridge ahead of it in the magazine. History [ edit] Winchester introduced the .351 SL in the Winchester Model 1907 self-loading rifle as a replacement for the Winchester Model 1905 and the .35 SL. Remington made great efforts to promote the power of the .35 Remington by featuring the cartridge, along with their revolutionary new semi-automatic rifle, in many advertisements during the first half of the 20th Century. Dont be fooled by its somewhat anemic looking ballistics on paper when compared to newer cartridges sporting fancy pointed tips and blazing fast velocities. In rifle cartridges, we usually take the safe route and .30-caliber has emerged as the American shooters choice. A major online retailer only lists four loads for the .35 Remington but lists 35 different options for the .30/30. As much as its a .30/30 vs. .35 thing, it might be just as much an East vs. West, thing. Make sure you follow The Big Game Hunting Blog onFacebook,Instagram,Twitter, andYouTube. The exception to that rule is Hornadys LeveRevolution ammo line, which uses a pliable tip on a spitzer bullet to afford a much flatter trajectory in both cartridges. A 35 Rem or .358 Win would have been perfect for the situation. up to 0.358 inches and dubbed it the poor mans magnum.. It is believed that. It is probably best restricted to use on animals of not more than about 50 pounds live weight, such as small predators. 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But in 2003 Remington decided to attempt a resurrection. The .30/30 Winchester was introduced in 1895 for Winchesters model 1894 lever-action rifle and is unquestionably the most popular cartridge ever chambered in a lever-gun. If were being honest with ourselves, the majority of American hunters, especially in the south and northeast, will take only a handful of shots at big game at ranges past 100 yards in their lifetime. Its a decent cartridge, but American hunters just wont flock to it. remember seeing it on Winchester's loading list when I was a teenager. Looking for previous installments of our "Head to Head" series? And Barnes makes a 200-grain TSX bullet designed for this cartridge that, when handloaded to 2850 f.p.s., allows the .350 Rem. [2], While a few gun writers in the 1960s criticized the .351 SL for being inadequate as a deer hunting round, and the round's power has sometimes been compared to a .357 Magnum carbine load, the .351 SL's killing power falls somewhere between the .30-30 Winchester and the .35 Remington. the higher pressure and back thrust of more powerful cartridges, so the .351 Self-Loading cartridge was designed for the existing Boxes of 20 can be found in the $25 range while the .35 Rem. I have one, and I like it a lot. The 243 Winchester has a longer overall length and uses a longer case length than the 223 Remington. Can Coolers | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Find More Great NRA Publications Perfect For Every Interest, Discover Everything That The NRA Has To Offer. Slightly less recoil and quite a bit less cash gives the shootability category to the .30-30 Win. Bottles & 12-oz. In a modern bolt-action rifle, hand loaders can achieve velocities of 2,400 fps with a 200-grain bullet, making the .35 Rem. in 1957 and .351 ammunition was offered for several years after that. Main Image: 3035-5: Marlins model 336 is one of the few rifles available in both .30/30 Winchester and .35 Remington. Id be hunting deer with my father the following season, and that alone was a dream come true. If the .35 Rem. The .35 Remington uses the 180- and 200-grain .358caliber bullets, and while light-for-caliber, they are effective at the ranges a .35 Remington is used, which is usually inside of 150 yards. Speaking of range, neither cartridge is designed for long-range accuracy. I live in the Wind River valley of Wyoming in grizzly country. was included in that party is a mystery, as it had no Winchester counterpart. When chambered for cartridges such as the .243 Win., 6 mm Rem., .308 Win. I tried three of Winchesters five loads at SHOT Shows Industry Day at the Range, and all were a pleasure to shoot and plenty accurate. I have used this cartridge on moose with excellent results. The .223 Rem. It was not designed for a lever-action rifle. projectiles, and by designing 350 Legend to. It was noticeably better than its pappy, and although many gave it a. Why the .35 Rem. Thats a question I just dont understand. Of the Winchester cartridges, only the .30-30 Win. The .35 Remingtons story is a bit different. in a rimmed cartridge that would work in a lever-action rifle. It shoots well and is light and easy to carry while hunting. Lets take a look at the two champions of the deer woods, and perhaps finish the conversation started three-plus decades ago. Depending on the load, 150 yards may be a better estimate. If he doesnt, his old man did, and he still has strong opinions about which cartridge performs better in the field. In 1965 Remington took it to the next level with the introduction of the Model 600 Magnum Carbine. from a 20" and .351" JSP bullets. Younger hunters seem fixated on shooting further. During the spring conservation order, you can hunt with outfitters from Arkansas to Saskatchewan. Still, much like the old man who can rattle your teeth with a punch, appearances can be deceiving. The .358 has 24 percent more energy at the muzzle than the .300 Win. Today, most major manufacturers offer multiple actions chambered in .30-30. Re: 35 Remington vs. 358 Winchester. "Winchester Model 07 Self-Loading .351 Caliber: Its Past and Its Future with Modern Brass, Bullets and Powders" (2011) Speckin, Leonard pp 68-70, "Winchester Model 07 Self-Loading .351 Caliber: Its Past and Its Future with Modern Brass, Bullets and Powders" (2011) Speckin, Leonard pp 88-96, Last edited on 25 February 2023, at 22:24, ".351 Winchester Self-Loading (.351 WSL, .351 SL)", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=.351_Winchester_Self-Loading&oldid=1141606901, This page was last edited on 25 February 2023, at 22:24. The best answer to the question might be to just get one of each. Thats what I did. You can trade in your 35 rem barrel on edstc.com for a 358 barrel. The ability to smack the snot out of big game animals like black bear and wily old whitetail bucks is what really matters. 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