Ask Bro. I asked her if she had approached Pastor T. after the service and she said to his face, How could you allow him back again, and then she said that Pastor T. looked at her and said that there was nothing he could do. It shocks me that people informed by history and readily available information on the internet, still maintain an allegiance to harming themselves and others with religion. Programs [ edit] Golden State Baptist College - Santa Clara, CA How Can We Help? On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Im not , for many reasons, a fan of IFB beliefs and practices. God Is Still Good. Find helpful information about Golden State Baptist College. Classes for the fall semester of 2022 have officially begun. I believe he did it and is guilty but I doubt a DA will pursue a misdemeanor offense that is past statue of limitations which also has the accused in another state that would require extradition. With all of your knowledge and experience, you still left the one who loved and died for you. Nine of the churches are in Texas, including Open Door Baptist Church in Mesquite. Approximately 30 years ago, Dr. Jack Trieber began to see the need to train men and ladies of our church and nearby churches for full-time Christian service. I tried not to get it on the internet. I understand you have a right to your opinion just as I have a right to mine. 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Fundamentalist Pastor Calls Out Churchs Rape Culture. People who tell the truth deserve praise, as we here have praised the man willing to tell the truth from within the religious cage. ),who blasted Shiflett in multiple posts and tweets. More By Golden State Baptist College. Click the photo to request information about GSBC. You dont say booh to him and your instructions to the victim and their family are the same. Golden State (Disney California Adventure), former name of Grizzly Peak, part of a theme park Golden State Baptist College, in Santa Clara, California Golden State, a 2019 novel by Ben H. Winters Golden State Killer, US serial killer and police officer from California This disambiguation page lists articles associated with the title Golden State. Steve a Pastor does not investigate squat. It states that "the activities on campus, the dormitory life, and the entire program of the college require the full participation and cooperation of every student." Legal scrutiny absolutely is necessary when you uncover criminal activity. Thank you. Hes wrong. For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Attend classes, experience chapel, meet the staff and students, and make memories with new friends! It only took 12 days. So many years later? Many of the laws in Many states relating to sexual assault are Horrifyingly minimal in the consequences to the offender. Student Reviews of Golden State Baptist College, a Baptist, Non-Profit, King James, Bible, Institute, founded in 1996, and located in Santa Clara, California, USA. ), Basically Shiflett was all like, #MeToo, and everyone else was like, Shun the nonbelievers!, What Shiflett did was incredibly brave, incredibly necessary, and I have to commend him for it. The purpose of Golden State is to train men and women who have a sincere desire to serve the Lord by equipping them with the tools necessary for a fruitful ministry. Regardless of other peoples actions, you supported her and empowered her to stand up for herself. All you know about Jesus is what little is said about him in the gospels and what preachers have been saying about him for the past 2,000 years. I get that there are repercussions when you speak out on any given issue, but there are also repercussions when you dont. That pastor trying to do his own investigation like that is almost like a random guy walking up on a murder scene and trying to investigate it for evidence before the police arrive. There has been absolutely no proof provided, yet people are ready to hang him and totally ruin his name. I dont see any evidence that fundamentalism as a whole has a cover-up problem any more than any othergroup. Could this virtually unprecedented stance be the start of a revolution in fundamentalism? Add an image Join others and track this artist Scrobble, find and rediscover music with a Last.fm account Or when do we allow them to come back? Again Darrell NO. As another former fundy put it, wereconflicted for all the right reasons. Is this a step in the right direction? Its not even the fact that he messed up! He clarified his use of the word consensual and shared with me that his investigation was for his own peace of mind since Giovanelli was a friend and the former pastor of Calvary Baptist Church. It contributes to some giving IFB churches a bad name because when they go out and try to pastor, and pretend like nothing happened, they invite criticism and deservedly so. We sure as hell hope so! If a video is removed by Google, it says so. Pray for everyone involved in this unfortunate situation. For it is shameful even to speak of the things that they do in secret. Here's how, Heaven will be diverse. Golden State Baptist College, like most Independent Fundamental Baptist Bible colleges[citation needed], has chosen to maintain its independence from secular authorities by deliberately refraining from seeking or accepting accreditation. The married pastor served at that church from 2004 to 2014, and later became president of Golden State Baptist College in California. Get it documented by the police. But I feel horrible and try to make it right and change things. Send us prayer requests, make an online payment, and more! Steve unless the Perp spills his guts to the Police Officer your contact with him could be construed as interference The repenting for the Perp comes after conviction and jail Any counseling by a Pastor should come from a Pastor totally unconnected to the Church Representing the Church means representing the victim until the allegation is proven untrue or the Perp is convicted and in jail period By going and seeing your friend as a Pastor you are being unfair to the victim If the Perp makes admissions to you it cant be used against him because your a Pastor Thats not fair to the victim and you just put yourself in place of siding with thePerp, Steve are you kidding me you can bring Spiritual disapline before the authoritys can act Thats obstruction Do you hear what your saying You should stay out of it This Pastor who did his own Investigation is dead wrong He could be prosecuted Plus you dont think this guy dumped his hard drives and phones already Im sure their in the San Francisco Bay CHILD PORN ITS A FEDERAL OFFENSE IF THIS GUY CALLED THE COPS THE FEDS WOULD HAVE HANDLED IT AND GOT SEARCH WARRANTS FOR HIS HOME AND OFFICE AND ALL ELECTRONIC DEVISESBingo, Pastors dont think this is a big deal Short of murder this is the worst thing one can do This guy could do 20 plus years maybemore. I know the alleged victim was not happy about what was said, or that it wasnt said the way that she wanted, but it was likely handled that way for that reason. On this point, I stand with Pastor Shiflett. This is so important and, quite frankly, could have saved so many of us so much pain had we been aware early on that abusers arent just strangers or bad guys.Theyre more often than not our friends, our family members, our mentors, and those we trust and look up to. You listened to the victim, took her seriously, and dealt with the situation as best you knew you how. In a statement shared with WBAL-TV, Calvary Baptist Church said it stands by the victim and joins her in gratitude that Cameron Giovanelli will face justice.. We have a responsibility to hear all sides. [2] As such, its degrees and credits earned are not recognized as valid to most potential employers or other educational institutions. Floor leaders perform routine "lights out" checks at 11:00 PM, however if a student is out at work they are allowed to be out as late as 1 AM. ( NFBC ), https://brucegerencser.net/2019/05/black-collar-crime-pastor-cameron-giovanelli-resurrects-from-the-dead-found-in-florida/, Jack Trieber protected one of his graducates. A 4th degree misdemeanor offense that carries a maximum 1 year prison sentence and $1,000 fine. Cover ups and embezzlement should be expected in a biz that markets morality because it cant deliver. I mean the most accurate statement any of us could say is that he has been accused of sexual misconduct, and even in that statement the victim has not yet publicly stated details as to what depth the misconduct was. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist. This action, in most states, is criminal. She said Giovanelli abused his role to get what he wanted from me., He took things from me I could never get back, she said in court. Shiflett said he was giving Trieber a chance to control the narrative., The ball is in your court now, you have to deal with it. View their 2022 profile to find tuition cost, acceptance rates, reviews and more. Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving. Give me a break. IMHO, Bruce is right to say Christianity is a religion like any other. Plan to visit GSBC on March 27-28, 2023 for two action-packed days. Paul sought justice for the perp in 1 Cor. Bible Baptist College - Clarks Summit, Pennsylvani. GSBC is a school designed to train preachers, evangelists, missionaries, and Christian workers for the 21st century. Just pray for all involved and if the accused is guilty and can be sent to jail so beit. Why? Shiflett, as you can imagine, has received a flood of emails, comments, etc. (via Twitter). * Prix au 1/01/23. Funny how, again like he wasnt a true x-tian believers say they pray for healing for the abuser, his family and -oh yes I nearly forgot, the victim too. Ask any abuse survivor, however spiritual and close to god they were before the abuse and they will say they have never got over it, its affected or ruined their lives for many decades. Cover-ups are all too common in both the IFB church movement and Evangelicalism as a whole. As with Jack Schaaps victim, IFB zealots will say the victim seduced Giovanelli; that she was a willing participant; that she is in it for the money. The churchs insurance company paid out a hefty settlement. Christians Say the Darnedest Things: Coach Dave Daubenmire Exposes His Racism For All to See, Dr. David Tee Thinks Everyone Who is Not a Christian is an Atheist, Bruce, I Pray You Will Have Your Eyes Opened and the Truth will Guide You, Black Collar Crime: Evangelical Pastor William Tim Smith, Jr. where is the news coverage there is only accusations for months now i dont fall on either side of this becouse there has been no proof you can say he resigned yes he did however that was not an admission of guilt and we dont know why it was done so i ask any updates. BBC becomes University April 20, 2015. . . This is exactly what Ive been yelling at my phone since this came out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVLn59Ujg-o, Or, you can youtube Response by Pastor Stacey Shiflett to North Valley Baptist Church. A couple things people should realize before bashing nvbcs statement is that they had to be very careful about how they worded their statement in order to avoid a potential lawsuit. Proof again the gals are not taking it anymore. Welcome to Ohio. I trust that as time goes on, you will accept the simple reality that we are just people, not born in sin or born bad or fallen from grace, just people who sometimes need help from ourselves and one another. Golden State Baptist College is a ministry of North Valley Baptist Church of Santa Clara, California. Friday, May 11 The victim outed Cameron Giovanelli for sexually abusing her when he was pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Dundalk, MD and she was a 16-year old student in their private school. I am sorry to know that you were so harmed that you fell into addiction and I admire that you share your view in a place like this, not exactly among those of like-mind! and with a gracious smile and amen. Thursday, May 17 The victim was so upset by Triebers statements that she decided to file an official police report instead of just letting the church handle it. I agree that churches shouldnt cover up crimes like this and Im glad we agree that the other pastor should have immediately gone to the police. FYI, sexual assaultis nuclear.(Also, youre not a king.). Copyright 2023 The Life and Times of Bruce Gerencser Powered by Flywheel. Immerse yourself in college life by attending classes, joining chapel, meeting students and staff, and making new friends. When Your Lover Is Non-Monogamous (Part 2). Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise, making the best use of the time, because the days areevil. The jerk is still there. If you dont deal with it properly, it will come back to bite you in the end eventually. This is exactly why the IFB has such a negative reputation, for decades of dealing with sex crimes in-house, in secret, and without the proper authorities. You clearly believe that your faith has helped you to be open and truthful. He may never be able to pastor another church again, and Im sure those who he is rebuking will come after him for retribution in some way or shape. The idea is to get to the truth. Im saddened at this situation and more than a little angry at another example of churches handling matters like this in house. Thus, it is not accredited by any recognized accreditation body. Criminal charges were filed last Thursday morning by Sarah Jackson. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Your sin will ALWAYS find you out. Theres a difference between being a preaching technician and being a leader. I agree, i know you know longer are a religious person and i respect that, that is your choice, but i believe that if a pastor commits a crime such as this, or in other examples adultery, etc., then he has disqualified himself from being a pastor and should resign the ministry and not just go on and pastor some other church. From myself and a handful of other unofficial members of the trail of broken hearts and broken lives the IFB has left behind, we want you to know that were hoping and were watching. 25:2, It is the glory of god to conceal a thing, but the honor of kings is to search out a matter. In other words, be discrete, dont go nuclear.. Because the IFB maintains ideologies of separatism and elitism, they tend to deal with their issues in house. The trend is: keep it in the church, dont tell anyone (authorities included), blame the victim, and re-locate the offender to another church in another town (and dont forget his severance package). www.BBC.edu. A response is pending. To be able to get up and continue to preach every week and keep it all together really makes me question if he really ever new Christ in the first place. Being a preacher is not the same thing as leadership. They remain locked in the cycle of self-harm, repeating their begging for forgiveness. Until 2017, the statute of limitations on child sexual abuse was age 25. I appreciate you looking up the laws and seeing the legality of the issue at hand! They can even be restored to church membership (though not leadership. Well, in a shocking turn of events, one IFB mega-pastor took a public stand against these actions, and those of us who have come out of that culture, many being survivors of abuse ourselves, arent quite sure what to think. Baltimore County police have arrested a former pastor of a fundamentalist Baptist church in Dundalk on charges he sexually abused a teenager on the church's grounds and elsewhere in the Baltimore. Having been involved in sexual misconduct cases in churches I have pastored and in churches where pastors refused to properly deal with the sin problems, here are some things toconsider: No Darrell because the Fundy/Evangelical Community for years has been pointing their crooked fingers at other Christians and NonChristians for decades and calling them sinners re GAYS ABORTION SHORT SKIRTS DRINKING ALCOHOL WHATEVER. Neal, unfortunately . Today I reported an illegal ballot drop box site that I spotted at a Calvary Chapel church in Chino to my county elections board here. (Dont worry, we saved them. A Baptist pastor and former college president accused of grooming and sexually abusing a teenager over a decade ago as a pastor in Maryland has been sentenced to 90 days in jail after pleading guilty to lesser charges in December. It was founded in 1996 as an outgrowth of Golden State Baptist Institute. There job is to report it. as far as Giovanelli not being able to work with children again, i agree, he shouldnt be able to. 2019. I received an email from Pastor Shiflett about this post. Golden State Baptist College ( GSBC) is an independent Baptist Bible college in Santa Clara, California, offering bachelor's degrees and master's degree programs in fields related to Christian ministry . Shiflett! Yes I have read the law and the worst case scenario for him would be 1 year of prison and a fine. All responsibilities of any nature whatsoever, were permanently and immediately terminated with receipt of his resignation. I personally have gained a new respect for my pastor. We all mess up! I saw homophobia, racism, ethnic slurs, and the usual lack of empathy you would expect from the conservative fundamentalist stereotype. but for every one of these horrible situations with guilty perpetrator, how many fundamentalist ministries are there that have a leader not guilty of such things? Even though multiple victims had come forward,still no one contacted law enforcement. I can only imagine the shit the victim has had to deal with. As horrible as the situation is they really did everything that they legally could given he wasnt actually convicted of a crime (yet). Its the right thing to do. I too second that ilthe police should have been involved from the beginning. Return to homepage. 2014. Lauren, I am happy to know that you have managed your addiction but among non-believers what you have accomplished is replacing one excess with another. Giovanellis name has been scrubbed from Golden States website. I say let the police handle it. Dont get me wrong, I am stoked at what hes doing, all things considered, but the fact is that were talking about a crime, not just a sin.As such, reporting to local authorities is the only right wayto handle it, especially when were talking about a serial pedophile. In 2006, Pastor Trieber began his 15-minute daily radio broadcast, " Revival Time ." It is aired on over 60 stations worldwide! On May 11, 2018, the victim, Sarah Jackson, posted the following on Facebook: Stacey Shiflett, the current pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Dundalk, Maryland the church Giovanellli pastored when he allegedly assaulted Jackson released the following video: Theres much about this video that irritates the living hell out of me, especially the fact that the pastor investigated instead of immediately calling law enforcement. It is, like all others, built on the Tree of Knowledge Jesus did not come to give knowledge, but life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options. This post is about sexual asssault, and you are more worried about someone having a potty mouth? Take your sanctimonious morality policing and shove it where the sun doesnt shine. Santa Clara, CA 95054; About. Mark your calendar and register now for an unforgettable experience on March 27-28. My opinions are well known in the IFB community. Another rule states that "The King James Version is the only English-language Bible that will be permitted on campus." Click Here GSBC Alumni We'd love to keep in touch with our alumni! in fundamentalism for pastors, and churches, and ministries to just gloss over, and sweep under the rug things of absolute epic proportion.(The video has since been removed, but can be found here.). Acceptance rate by state; Private School Review 244 5th Avenue, # J-229 New York, NY 10001. What doesnt work here is not religion, but Jesus Christ. 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Trieber and North Valley Baptist Church have a bad track record when it comes to dealing with stories such as this, so they will not get a pass from me. So when it comes to politics and the self-preservation of his personal agenda, he does indeed defend abusers. The pastor is the CEO. Also I believe the statue of limitations of this crime said it was one year after offense occurred which would have ran out 11 years ago. Not only does he defend the victim and publicly advocate for her, but he comes forward about his own previous victimization and experience with church cover-ups! Wed love to keep in touch with our alumni! Some leaders are very, very incompetent. also in regards to IFB pastors going on to pastor other churches etc: And barring prosecution, I hope the perpetrator will never be permitted to pastor or work with children/teens again. I can find out as many details I need on this case on the Internet, NVBC did the best they could. What, did all our accrued knowledge disappear the moment we walked/ran away from Christianity? She even alleged that Giovanelli opened a phone line for her on the churchs phone plan to avoid her parents seeing how much the two were communicating. Click Here Current Students Send us prayer requests, make an online payment, and more! Review changes Gives Christians a terrible name. IFB preachers love exposing the pedophile scandal in the Catholic church. Shiflett is out, though he doesnt yet seem to know it. Golden State Bible College President on administrative leave over allegations of 'inappropriate conduct' By Jim. All they could do is make sure he was fired / resigned and was no longer working their. Does anyone know why Pastor Shifletts video was removed? Also as far as what you said about IFB Christians, Im sure there are very many that dont act like Christians, but they are human just like the rest of us. Attendance at the daily chapel service is required. While fundamentalist pastors may feel like they have authority, they do not and their judgments dont mean anything outside of their small circle. What, by the way, is a clean life? How many ministries when someone is caught, the police are properly called and the perpetrator handled by the authorities? Not only NVBC, as Im sure u know. The supporters of Jack Hyles and First Baptist Church in Hammond, Indiana are, by far, the worst. You cant put a band-aid over a tumor and think the cancer is going to go away. North Valley Publications is a small publisher that specializes in books on Christian living and Church leadership. Morality comes from a love for Life! The victim has filed charges with authorities. Cameron Shane Giovanelli, a married father of three, was sentenced Monday by Baltimore County Circuit Judge Robert Cahill Jr., according to The Baltimore Sun. I am sorry for you sir. You call the cops. I am saddened and frustrated whenever I hear of a leader who tried to cover up someones criminal act whether that leader is a fundamentalist, evangelical or whatever group orclassification. Preachers are not qualified to investigate sexual abuse, nor should they be making decisions or giving advice on the topic. Shifflet took it down. That said, most Evangelicals are generally appalled by sexual misconduct within their churches. The administration "stand[s] against the destructiveness of para-church organizations", a reference to Christian ministries not operating under the authority of a local church. Most relevant to this issue is his enthusiastic embrace of, Careers Workplace and Religion Columnists, Recreation Outdoors and Religion Columnists, Religious Music and Entertainment Columnists, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I know several that have done this and it irks me a little. 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